Remove 'religion' listing from Indonesian ID cards: Ahok

Jakarta's deputy governor says it is time for Indonesia to drop the long-running mandate on the national IDs.

By Maeswara Palupi for Khabar Southeast Asia in Jakarta

January 01, 2014
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Jakarta Deputy Governor Basuki "Ahok" Tjahaja Purnama sparked a renewed debate about whether Indonesia should continue requiring citizens to list religious affiliations on their national identity cards (KTP).

  • Police check identities of motorists in Jembrana, Bali in October 2007. A debate is unfolding in Indonesia about whether national identity cards should continue to list religious affiliation. [Sonny Tumbelaka/AFP]

    Police check identities of motorists in Jembrana, Bali in October 2007. A debate is unfolding in Indonesia about whether national identity cards should continue to list religious affiliation. [Sonny Tumbelaka/AFP]

He stated his objection to the decades-old policy and said Indonesia should end it, in comments to reporters on December 13th.

"What's the point of mentioning your religion on your ID?" the Jakarta Post quoted Ahok as saying.

Ahok, a member of Indonesia's Christian minority, was responding to questions about his views on a change made by the House of Representatives' (DPR) in late November to the 2004 Civil Administration Law.

The amendment would retain the requirement that Indonesians list their affiliation to one of six officially recognised religions: Islam, Christianity, Roman Catholicism, Hinduism, Buddhism or Confucianism. Those not belonging to any of these religions would state "other" next to the "religion" heading on their identity cards.

Indonesians react

Yunika Pradhana, a graduate student at Atma Jaya Catholic University in Jakarta, agreed the "religion" category should be dropped.

"Removing it is a good way to guarantee equality among all citizens. I think it will bring fair competition in public service positions, schools, and jobs," she told Khabar Southeast Asia.

Abolishing the requirement would help minorities become more accepted, Jakarta resident Bagus Wicaksono said.

"There would not be a feeling of alienation among those who are not Muslims," he told Khabar.

"I do not really understand what the function of listing religion is."

But there are others who disagree with Ahok.

Tubagus Robbyansyah, chairman of Nahdlatul Ulama's (NU) regional board in Jakarta, said there was no reason to do away with the policy as in his view, all Indonesian citizens– especially Muslims– have the right to state their religion.

"By knowing somebody's religion, we can be mindful of being tolerant," he said.

For his part, Abdulla Subandi, a cleric in Tangerang, West Java, said including or omitting such religious information would make no difference.

"It would not change people's behaviour," he said. "Instead of debating whether to include religion on ID cards, we should focus on how we can embrace tolerance for followers of different religions," he told Khabar.

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    • Enidaras
      June 21, 2014 @ 02:06:00PM
    • Apparently the ID card column was not there before the New Order! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=891183377575227&l=b3afa936c9
    • risman
      June 4, 2014 @ 03:06:53AM
    • Malaysia is an Islamic country but there is no religion column on their IDs (Identification Cards). They should check with them over there as to the pros and cons.
    • Bude
      May 29, 2014 @ 07:05:03AM
    • This is a country based on Pancasila, have you forgotten? This is a place where citizens cannot be discriminated against on the basis of religion, skin color, ethnicity or political alignment. It is not necessary for ID cards to list our religion, ethnicity or political alignment. Concerning religion, it is between us and Allah. In other countries which are advanced they do not list religion or ethnic group on the ID. All humans must be treated equally and fairly. As educated and just people we cannot judge someone because they are Chinese, Javanese, Padang, or Sundanese. That perspective is very narrow and dangerous, it can cause wars between ethnic groups and races. The country of Indonesia is made up of various ethnic groups and races, especially in this age where the airplane is something commonplace and people move between countries and cities. Have you forgotten? Study the history of Indonesia, the ancestors of Indonesians came from China and the religion of our ancestors were Buddhism and Hinduism as evident from the prehistoric temples. In the eyes of Allah, all humans are equal, the things that matter are our actions and intentions. Even if a leader is Muslim, if he betrays the people, commits corruption/steals the people's money, breaks the oath of office, practices KKK, it means nothing. Judge our leaders not by their religion or ethnicity but what they do for their people. Judge our leaders by their honesty and which partners they choose to work with, not their religion!
    • israel nanlohy
      May 28, 2014 @ 01:05:28PM
    • Mr. Ahok is a figure of Christian leadership who is wise and is anti corruption. He will be blessed by Lord Jesus because he carries out his duty, unlike other leaders who only talk but produce nothing.
    • an'an nasrullah
      May 21, 2014 @ 06:05:15AM
    • Even in the Quran, a non-Muslim leader is forbidden to lead. Watch it, Ahok, you will be beheaded.
    • nasution
      May 20, 2014 @ 06:05:01AM
    • Muslims must be aware of infidel efforts to destroy this religion. I suggest that mosque youths across Indonesia be active so that when the time comes they can take over the caliphate in this country.
    • SUNARDI
      May 10, 2014 @ 10:05:11PM
    • Ahok, if you do not want to have a religion, go home to China.
    • Need Justice
      May 10, 2014 @ 09:05:51PM
    • The minority groups are attacked by the majority when they voice their opinions of equality. Tsk, tsk, have you read all these comments? Almost all of them are glorifying their own religion so it is no wonder that minorities are hurt. It is no wonder they all want to go overseas, where they will have equality in all areas and there they do not prioritize religion. Indonesia is proud of Unity in Diversity but the majority of its residents abide by Unity in My Own Religion, the Others Can Suffer. As a minority I am disappointed.
    • ahmad tanwir
      May 8, 2014 @ 12:05:02AM
    • To those who consider themselves Muslims, we should unite and wipe out people like Ahok.
    • HAHAHA
      May 5, 2014 @ 02:05:55AM
    • We get one infidel as a leader and everything becomes messy. Minorities don't know their place.
    • sos
      April 29, 2014 @ 10:04:23AM
    • What determines whether or not we enter heaven is not the religion listed on the ID card so why make it an issue?
    • David
      March 26, 2014 @ 10:03:51PM
    • A Citizen Identification Card must list a person's complete identity so that life as a nation will be orderly. So, those who have the idea to erase an element that is already included in it are troublemakers or they have a hidden mission that we must be wary of.
    • hamba Allah
      February 20, 2014 @ 10:02:26AM
    • This is what happens when infidels become leaders, after suggesting that religion be erased from IDs, Ahok is suggesting that prostitution be made legal in the country. We would suffer even more, disasters may even get worse. The point is that the faithful must remember and be aware, do not give infidels a chance to be leaders.
    • untoro
      February 20, 2014 @ 08:02:19AM
    • Ahok, what is your intentions by erasing the religion column on the ID's? Are you part of a missionary syndicate? If so then you should step down from your governor post! Leave DKI for a noble character official.
    • andi
      February 19, 2014 @ 11:02:49PM
    • Be careful with Ahok.
    • Soesnodu Haji
      February 19, 2014 @ 06:02:26AM
    • From the comments that I have read it is apparent that there are not many people trying to provide a solution, only arguments. We must admit that in this country there are still many groups that pursue their interests by claiming that they do so in the name of religion, and thus many people have been indoctrinated by their slogans. Consequently, these people lose their neutrality with respect to their opinions. Perhaps the solution that I can give is this: Leave the religion column as it is but those who feel that the religion to which they profess is a personal matter, that does not need to be widely known, are free to leave the religion column blank. I hope that by doing this, all issues and people's aspirations can be accommodated.
    • muslim
      February 19, 2014 @ 01:02:28AM
    • Mr. Ahok, please brush up on your Pancasila, the foundation of life in our country. You need not worry or despair over the matter of listing people's religion on ID cards, it is not important.
    • taufit nagan
      April 2, 2014 @ 11:04:42PM
    • I wholeheartedly agree, sir.
    • ALWIN
      February 17, 2014 @ 11:02:20AM
    • The number of Muslims in Indonesia would be impossible to count because their ID cards do not list their religion. Stick to good suggestions, Ahok, deal with the floods. You're only making trouble for other people.
    • adam
      February 16, 2014 @ 04:02:22AM
    • Perhaps after this Ahok would suggest getting rid of the Ministry of Religious Affairs.
    • musl
      February 14, 2014 @ 01:02:02AM
    • Let's just eliminate identity cards, like living in the forest as free as the animals.
    • didi
      February 12, 2014 @ 03:02:12PM
    • The longer I look at Ahok the more I want to vomit. He is a missionary in disguise.
    • pramulia
      February 9, 2014 @ 07:02:22PM
    • Bismillah. To the honorable Mr. Ahok, please reconsider your suggestion, you came to be elected as deputy governor also by virtue of the religion listed on your ID card. To be fair to both minorities and the majority groups in general, I hope that you do not forget who to thank. Thank you.
    • jhoni
      February 9, 2014 @ 12:02:51PM
    • Ahok, more like "Crazy Ahok". That Ahok is crazy.
    • yani
      February 9, 2014 @ 10:02:59AM
    • I am baffled by those who agree. When someone dies because of an accident and does not have his religion identity it may create misunderstandings in funeral process, would you want that to happen to you? I think not! So, do you still agree?
    • cocobo
      February 17, 2014 @ 03:02:40AM
    • Usually when they die they are taken by their families.
    • putra
      February 8, 2014 @ 10:02:25AM
    • Eventually, all things on Earth will be erased, earthquakes, floods, volcanic eruptions, the Earth shaking 7 times a day; the false prophets have arrived.
    • irman
      February 8, 2014 @ 09:02:56AM
    • Ahok, if you erase the religion listing it would be as if this country has no religion because people without religion cannot live in Indonesia. You are ruining religious tolerance. Keep in mind, inter-religious marriage is forbidden. There are many cases where non-Muslims wish to marry Muslims, they say they want to convert but once they are married, they convert back. They are cheating their own religion. What if religion were to be erased? What would happen to this characteristically religious country? Religion gives us our character, not the constitution/Pancasila. the country has character because of religion.
    • jay
      February 8, 2014 @ 08:02:42AM
    • Ahok is completely wrong about erasing religion from ID cards, we might as well erase sex, blood type, marital status, citizenship that also take up space on the ID. If the religion listing were erased we would not know who is Muslim or non-Muslim in Indonesia in terms of percentage. Hey, relevant government, do not listen to these statements by Ahok, if you attempt to explain Ahok's word we would never see the end of it. Let Ahok have a debate with me, I still have many arguments as to why nothing should be erased from the ID cards.
    • Bejaka
      February 8, 2014 @ 07:02:51AM
    • You are very wrong, Mr Ahok. You should confer with other people. Don't just throw around the idea to erase religion. You do not ask any questions. Do not try to follow the false prophet, sir. It is a shame for your running mate, Mr. Prabowo. Because of you his image is compromised.
    • Bejaka ACEH
      February 7, 2014 @ 05:02:45PM
    • Mr. Ahok seems to be planning on not having faith anymore. Why is that, Ahok? Have you gone mad? Are you ashamed of your religion? Just convert to another religion. Do you want to be like those with no religion? Just join up. We Muslims are embarrassed to hear this; it is like you throw pig dung at your minister's face, Mr. Ahok. You might become the grandchild of the false prophet, Mr. Ahok. I swear in the name of Allah we will not elect your party, Ahok. Your running mate is destroyed because of you.
    • pri
      February 6, 2014 @ 10:02:00PM
    • Ahok has nothing better to do. He was just elected deputy governor and he is already coming up with random ideas. We need to retain our identity, mate.
    • zainal pedro
      February 4, 2014 @ 01:02:14AM
    • The listing of religion in the ID cards is important because if someone dies on the road because of an accident or dies far away from their family, others need to deal with them in accordance with the religion listed on their ID card. If they are Muslim they need to be treated as a Muslim and if they are Christian they will be treated as a Christian, something like that. Do not take it for granted.
    • agil
      February 3, 2014 @ 10:02:38PM
    • Mr. Prabowo, presidential candidate for 2014: Please reprimand Ahok, whose words are becoming more reckless. Do not let Ahok destroy Mr. Prabowo's credibility and have him hated by Muslims. Ahok has the gall to say those things because he is backed by the high-flying Gerindra party. Ahok is not smart enough to exercise discretion when he speaks and he has no regard for the feelings of others. Once again, I say that Ahok cannot exercise discretion when he speaks and he has no regard for the feelings of many.
    • deni
      February 3, 2014 @ 06:02:07AM
    • We might as well erase names and addresses so that names that are characteristically, say, Islamic, will not be discriminated against and compared to others. Stop listing occupation too so that when we go the the hospital, unemployed people will not be discriminated against.
    • bahufa
      February 2, 2014 @ 01:02:12PM
    • Ahok is showing off and over acting. A person's identity needs to be listed on the ID cards; the problem of discrimination is a matter individual opinion. Why are we debating status when what the government needs to think about is how to provide its people with prosperity, how to quickly eradicate the disastrous corruption plaguing its people, and how to be a productive nation and have dignified citizens.
    • Masykur
      February 1, 2014 @ 04:02:59AM
    • Bagus Wicaksono: ”I truly do not see the point of listing one's professed religion.” There is still much to be learned.
    • Heri
      January 31, 2014 @ 04:01:43AM
    • I personally have no issue with the listing of religion in the ID cards, but what about people of other faiths?
    • azwar
      January 28, 2014 @ 08:01:35PM
    • I will agree with Deputy Governor Ahok's idea, but only when there is only one religion left in Indonesia.
    • ibrahim
      January 27, 2014 @ 08:01:07PM
    • I agree with erasing religion from ID cards to put an end to insults and terror towards certain religions, Muslims like to fault other religions when being Muslim does not guarantee entrance into heaven. Prove its veracity; who has seen people entering heaven and how is this done?
    • ahmad tanwir
      May 8, 2014 @ 12:05:38AM
    • You should just die first so you can prove that Muslims go to heaven.
    • ISRAEL
      May 28, 2014 @ 01:05:56PM
    • I agree.
    • may
      January 27, 2014 @ 08:01:12AM
    • I agree with Mr. Ahok's suggestion for religion is not something written on a piece of paper but a principle we live by. Sometimes people become fanatics because of religion but all religions are good if those who profess them also do good. Why have religion on the ID cards if we do not abide by it.
    • hamba Alloh
      January 26, 2014 @ 09:01:56PM
    • Religious principles must be included in the ID cards. How would we organize marriages? What if someone were to die and cannot be identified or without their kin being present?
    • Dimas
      January 26, 2014 @ 07:01:38AM
    • I don't really agree with erasing the religion listing on ID cards. The religion column on the ID is a good thing if seen through a positive perspective.
    • david
      January 25, 2014 @ 01:01:17PM
    • There! Ahok is a minion of the Dajjal and will create inter-religious war. Do not equate Indonesia with other countries.
    • adi
      January 25, 2014 @ 10:01:01AM
    • Son, why are you making an issue out of the religion listing on ID cards? Are there no more pressing matters? The prosperity of the people is more important. Watch out, if you misbehave, I'll pinch your ears.
    • akhmad
      January 25, 2014 @ 10:01:12AM
    • Does the listing of religion on ID cards really cause problems? Someone's identity should be known, including religion. It is not meant to create conflict, but tolerance.
    • rosa
      January 24, 2014 @ 10:01:31AM
    • Ahok ...Ahok...Ahok...you have nothing better to do.
    • dhe
      January 24, 2014 @ 09:01:25AM
    • It is like this, Sirs, Madams, brothers, sisters, who do not agree with Ahok's statements. It is not our intention to degrade or offend. Look at it from the perspective of the minorities and the discrimination they feel when they cannot obtain certain positions because they are non-Muslims, etc. Regards.
    • mery
      January 24, 2014 @ 12:01:37AM
    • Does fostering togetherness and religious tolerance really necessitate showing our ID cards? We would know religiosity and everything else through our actions and example.
    • Helena
      January 23, 2014 @ 11:01:23PM
    • Many people share the same brilliant idea, but only Ahok has the courage to spell it out. Keep up the good work, Ahok!
    • Ryo
      January 29, 2014 @ 10:01:35PM
    • The brilliant idea was to make Jakarta into a worthy capital for Indonesia, this is not what we wanted when we elected Jokowi Ahok. Save Jakarta or leave it to someone else.
    • asamson
      January 23, 2014 @ 01:01:34PM
    • Ahok, Ahok, it sounds like a cough. Stop eating so much pork or you will eventually lose all sense of shame and replace religion with communist, and all will be the same because of tolerance, maybe endorse horseplay between unmarried couples, spread love, flexibility, knowing everyone, no one loses anything. How did you become deputy governor? You have a lot of money.
    • Sujarwo Edi
      January 23, 2014 @ 08:01:33AM
    • Mr. Ahok is the one discriminating against Muslims and other religions in Indonesia. Only stupid people and atheists would agree with your policy.
    • batu banget
      January 23, 2014 @ 03:01:44AM
    • Why not erase addresses, Mr. Ahok? People would be able to freely enter the palace.
    • suryadi
      January 23, 2014 @ 01:01:36AM
    • Now you are working to erase the religion identity, next we will not be allowed to have any religion. Come on, religion is important and should be included in the ID cards.
    • sugeng
      January 22, 2014 @ 10:01:39PM
    • There is sure to be nefarious intent behind Ahok's idea. The infidel has always antagonized Islam, beware, with this, it would become easier to make infidels out of Muslims. What more could you ask for in terms of tolerance? It is your ilk that constantly looking to start something. If we react, we are blamed and broadcast by the mass media. There have already been many concessions on our part. The people of Jakarta have gone too far in electing a leader without forethought and have dug us into a hole without realizing it. We will be electing leaders soon, be selective and choose the one with the same principles.
    • yadi binkoyod
      January 22, 2014 @ 06:01:38AM
    • Ahok should just resign his post as the vice governor. If he does not have the competence to govern Jakarta there are many others who are more intelligent. Stirring up issues in religion can trigger ethnic and religious unrest.
    • halasansiregar
      January 22, 2014 @ 02:01:16AM
    • If not listed as having religion, Hok, people can become fake and wicked and lead to chaos if confronted with mutual grievances. It is religion that served as the nation's noble spirit in gaining/achieving independence. What are the country's principles? What is its Symbol? How does it manifest in the country's administration, Hok? Please, Hok, let the issue go, God Almighty created the people of Indonesia in all their splendor and perfection, like the colors of blossoms and rainbows-Bhinneka Tunggal Ika (Unity in Diversity). There is no need to worry for the fruit of faith is love, Hok! The colors of blossoms and rainbows above will not negate, hate, dominate and dim each other and thus will not compromise the strength of the mighty Garuda symbol! As it was established by those who fought for this country, this integrity must be maintained and it is not the matter of listing or erasing a few words! Pray diligently to God so that we all (our nation and country) are given serenity, peace and prosperity! Amen!
    • JAMBI
      January 22, 2014 @ 01:01:13AM
    • I take offense to Ahok who has gone to far and disrupted religious peace. Religion on the ID card is very important. Infidels trying to damage Muslim principles, run them down.
    • sugiyatno giyat
      January 21, 2014 @ 11:01:25AM
    • No need to change things, Mr. Ahok, let it be, because listing religion on ID cards will not have any effect on how damaged inter-religious relations already are.
    • ryan
      January 21, 2014 @ 03:01:18AM
    • First religion is erased from ID cards, second, places of worship will be eradicated by Ahok. What is Mr. Ahok playing at? Please, Mr. Jokowi, reprimand Ahok for making suggestions that will lead citizens astray.
    • jack
      January 21, 2014 @ 01:01:42AM
    • Come on now, let go of this ID card business and just deal with the flooded capital, don't think about anything else.
    • AMIR
      January 20, 2014 @ 06:01:09PM
    • Listing religion on the ID card is a human right and cannot be erased.
    • Juliati Indah Setiorini Pakpahan
      January 20, 2014 @ 08:01:46AM
    • I agree with Mr. Ahok. Religious discrimination towards minorities often happen. Heaven itself is not partitioned on the basis of religion. If you feel that your religion is good, show it through your actions, not just words. This country should be ashamed, claiming to be a religious country and yet remains the most corrupt in the world. Think again.
    • zuhri
      January 20, 2014 @ 02:01:58AM
    • If religion were to be unlisted on the ID cards, the people will forget that they have religions. Our country will descend further into chaos if it is led by people with questionable identities.
    • alvaro
      January 28, 2014 @ 05:01:42AM
    • There is no use in listing religion if one's actions are in contradiction to it.
    • jainudin
      January 19, 2014 @ 08:01:05PM
    • Don't worry about it, sir, there are people dealing with religious affairs.
    • Rahman Surono
      January 19, 2014 @ 05:01:37PM
    • Poor Ahok, because through knowing someone's identity we can build mutual respect and foster tolerance. Please don't occupy yourself with trivial things, there are still much more important work to be done besides this.
    • aboyras
      January 19, 2014 @ 10:01:07AM
    • Ahok...ahok...just deal with the floods.
    • prya tanggoeh
      January 19, 2014 @ 08:01:01AM
    • Ahok, you dog, you have just become vice governor and you have already started insulting Islam. You are an infidel, that should be enough. Profane.
    • MINGO
      January 26, 2014 @ 11:01:04PM
    • Praise Allah, someone did it first.
    • alvaro
      January 28, 2014 @ 05:01:07AM
    • Is this the moral stance of someone who claims to be religious?
    • djodju
      January 18, 2014 @ 10:01:12PM
    • Try looking at yourself in the mirror. Those who give negative comments, there must be something wrong with you. Perhaps it was your education, perhaps your personality, perhaps your relationship with others, etc. Those who are positive in their comments do not have many issues with their personality. Let us all examine ourselves, it will lead to personal improvement, not for anyone else. I apologize if my words offend you.
    • hans
      January 18, 2014 @ 05:01:30AM
    • Do you want to erase religion from ID cards? Are we to become a communist country? A communist people? Devoid of religion?
    • HERMAMIK ALFARGANI
      January 17, 2014 @ 10:01:19PM
    • No need to change it because it does not affect anything. Continue listing religion because I am proud to be a Muslim. I love Muslim.
    • medan
      January 17, 2014 @ 12:01:57PM
    • Every human being is God's creation, we are among the things that make up the Earth. Religion is a belief/faith, only God knows whether or not we have it and it is not contingent on its inclusion on the ID cards. I wholeheartedly agree with Ahok's opinion.
    • `ab
      January 17, 2014 @ 12:01:04PM
    • We are all fellow human beings. Religion is our own belief. Only God knows whether or not we have faith, it does not need to be on our ID cards.
    • Ryo
      January 29, 2014 @ 10:01:32PM
    • Is it not a waste of time, energy, thought, and funds to bother with erasing religion from ID cards? Save Jakarta! Don't make it dirty!
    • rahmad pujainsyah
      January 17, 2014 @ 11:01:10AM
    • Religion is our primary identity. In the event of an accident or disaster in which a person dies in a hospital without family being present, they are given last rites and are buried in accordance with the religion listed on their ID card.
    • alvaro
      January 28, 2014 @ 05:01:23AM
    • Your argument is very good, I agree with you. This is one of the reasons religion needs to be listed on the ID cards.
    • zulkarnaini
      January 16, 2014 @ 09:01:55PM
    • Ahok, as governor you should be concerned with the needs of Jakarta, don't get involved in matters of religion, you have no competence for it and you are not an expert. Religion is an identity that is inherent within human beings, whether they're alive or dead. All citizens are obligated to list their religion, period.
    • TAYID
      January 16, 2014 @ 08:01:17PM
    • I do not like Ahok's policy on eliminating the religion column on ID cards.
    • rudy
      January 16, 2014 @ 05:01:04PM
    • I am not a good statesman but discussions on religion are sensitive. It is not about whose religion is the most right or perfect because we are talking about diversity and how this country was founded and the fact that a religious framework is one of the tenets of Pancasila. Listing religion on the ID cards shows that we are a religious country rooted in Pancasila and it distinguishes us from other countries.
    • tipu2 aceh
      January 16, 2014 @ 01:01:01AM
    • Perhaps artists from Aceh are the most correct in Jakarta compared to everybody else.
    • Saifuddin
      January 16, 2014 @ 01:01:48AM
    • Not only should Islam be listed on the ID cards, but it should also be deeply ingrained in our hearts, Hok!
    • bengkulu
      January 16, 2014 @ 12:01:11AM
    • Ahok, please just take care of Jakarta first. Religious identity is a must, no need to erase it. Only religious people may live in Indonesia.
    • Banten
      January 15, 2014 @ 09:01:14AM
    • Ahok should not get involved in the religion issue on ID cards. There are still many things to be done. To me the good religion is Islam.
    • Surmida
      January 18, 2014 @ 09:01:36PM
    • All religions are basically good, all religions call for its flock to do good things. But right now, religious people, whether they are, Muslims, Christians, etc. are engaging in actions that are prohibited by religion, we say we are Muslims so we say that Islam is the best, but what about people of other religions? They would certainly say that their religion is best. Therefore, it is better to be mutually tolerant.
    • septi
      January 15, 2014 @ 03:01:43AM
    • Ahok is dreaming. There is no use talking about religion, it is a human right, just take care of the floods in Jakarta.
    • Pangaribuan Albon
      January 15, 2014 @ 01:01:26AM
    • The religion column has always been the root of discrimination. The first requirement to become officials and in matters of business is always one's religion. It should be modeled after the passport, where religion is not listed.
    • santri akhir zaman
      January 14, 2014 @ 11:01:48PM
    • The listing of religion on ID cards is important because the religious identity reflects who we are. Religious harmony is not achieved through eliminating religious status but by understanding and immersing ourselves in our own religion because all religions teach goodness in the world and the afterlife. People who love and understand their religion will certainly love peace and harmony. Differences in religion is a matter of faith and God so failure to create religious harmony falls on the individuals.
    • komeng
      January 14, 2014 @ 10:01:15PM
    • Is it really necessary to talk about whether religion should be included in the ID cards? Is there nothing else that needs to be addressed and studied? Jakarta faces a myriad of annual problems that have never been resolved. Data on ID cards is not Ahok's problem, the floods, however, and many other things, are.
    • Totok
      January 14, 2014 @ 10:01:00AM
    • I wholeheartedly disagree! We only want healthy regulations.
    • reys
      January 13, 2014 @ 10:01:27AM
    • Ahok, you are so stupid. Where did you get this stupid idea?
    • aminullah al wahidi
      January 13, 2014 @ 05:01:51AM
    • If the issue is behavior, what we must change are the habits and the best way is to provide an example for the people of Indonesia, not going off and changing things. Religious status is not detrimental to, or complicates our lives. You speak of tolerance but are not tolerant yourself. How will you become a just leader? Better keep silent than looking for trouble.
    • herman ghozali
      January 13, 2014 @ 12:01:19AM
    • Ahok, please don't tell us what to do. You are an enemy of Islam and so you propose to erase religion from ID cards. Religion is our identity so leave us alone.
    • salam
      January 12, 2014 @ 01:01:28PM
    • This is a stupid suggestion by Ahok, perhaps he feels discriminated against or perhaps he does not have a religion. Religion has become an identity of every country and indicates the percentage of those belong to the majority religion in a country.
    • yatiSake
      January 12, 2014 @ 05:01:47AM
    • Every Indonesian citizen must have a religion so it should be included in the ID cards.
    • ungu flask
      January 12, 2014 @ 02:01:56AM
    • Ahok is becoming too progressive, doing as he pleases in this last one. Why change what is already there on the ID cards? Even if it were to change Jakarta would still be mired with traffic jams, inconsequential.
    • mahdiadi
      January 11, 2014 @ 10:01:07PM
    • Maybe Ahok doesn't have a religion.
    • sumatra barat salafi
      January 11, 2014 @ 09:01:47AM
    • Don't be so blase about IDs without a religious status. These are the undercurrents of rampant apostasy, a move by non-Muslims which will make it easy for them to carry out their agenda. To Ahok the infidel, it is not a problem, but the Muslims would become the target. Making light of religion is making light of Islam in Indonesia, where the majority of the population is Muslim. If he continues to pursue the ID without religion, Ahok may well be ousted by the people of Jakarta and he will have to deal with the Muslims of Jakarta. No one will ever again elect a non-Muslim leader even if they perform with a good vision and mission. It is the fatwa of the clerics to not elect non-Muslim leaders, this is what happens.
    • wati pulung
      January 11, 2014 @ 08:01:20AM
    • I agree that the religion column be erased from ID cards. Differences of faith did not cause conflict during the Old Order and the New Order and yet after the reformation differences of religion and belief has led to bloodshed. Support Ahok's opinion.
    • Aank
      January 10, 2014 @ 03:01:54PM
    • If religion is not included in the ID it will be an affront to the first principle of Pancasila. How would we prevent communism from spreading its web to Indonesia?
    • adek
      January 10, 2014 @ 02:01:55PM
    • Come now, Mr. Ahok, deal with the problems in Jakarta, don't make asinine comments, leave the religion on ID card issue alone.
    • andri
      January 10, 2014 @ 09:01:47AM
    • An ID card is somebody's identity and for clarity's sake it should be complete. At any rate the inclusion of religion is important in relation to many things. For example, Islam forbids interfaith marriage. It is also important for interfaith tolerance. I think Ahok is making things up, be careful when making suggestions so you don't hurt others and think positively for the common good. If you were a Muslim you would also be angry because this is clearly in violation of Islamic principles. Do you understand?
    • win
      January 10, 2014 @ 09:01:08AM
    • Ahok's policy will ruin religious people and Ahok is afraid of acknowledging his religion.
    • Dian arta
      January 10, 2014 @ 08:01:27AM
    • What of those whose religious faiths lie outside the 6 religions mentioned and cannot receive services like marriage certificates, birth certificates, etc. "Discriminated against".
    • ahmad muzamil
      January 9, 2014 @ 10:01:14PM
    • The inclusion of religion is an absolute must because Indonesian legal services require data on religion, for example, marriage services. It is from this religion information that we can know where someone should go to register and be married (The Office of Religious Affairs or the Civil Registry). Perhaps Mr. Ahok is unaware of this issue.
    • Muhammad Jafar
      January 9, 2014 @ 10:01:07PM
    • Religion needs to be included in ID cards because it is sacred and pertains to one's religious faith. Ahok should leave the ID card issue alone and just take good care of Jakarta.
    • hamba ALLAH
      January 9, 2014 @ 05:01:18AM
    • I do not like that this article exists because the elimination of religion on ID cards would destroy this generation's morale and we would not be able to tell who is religious and who is not.
    • Ashari
      January 8, 2014 @ 11:01:46PM
    • The inclusion of religion in the ID cards is still relevant and important. It will help the living to determine the manner in which the deceased are to be buried when people die unexpectedly on the street. It's just practical, right? In the past, in regions where the ID card had not been introduced or were not mandatory, people used to check the genitals of people who died on the road before burying that person.
    • munifkhan
      January 8, 2014 @ 07:01:18PM
    • It turns out Ahok is capable of low blows. Why is Ahok so stupid? How did someone like that become deputy governor.
    • budiarto
      January 8, 2014 @ 11:01:02AM
    • Let us not row over whether it is included or not. It is better to think about how to free Indonesia from corruption, kill or exile the perpetrators because they are no better than drug dealers.
    • supriyanto
      January 8, 2014 @ 09:01:36AM
    • The ID card is a citizen's identity. The inclusion of religion is a must so that it is clear whether a person is a religious person or an atheist. Does Ahok have nothing better to do or is he doing the bidding of another?
    • hamba ALLOH
      January 8, 2014 @ 05:01:49AM
    • The most correct religion is Islam and the one who wants to erase it wants to destroy Islam. It is funny that the people of Jakarta elected him. This is a lesson, don't be hasty in electing someone of a different religion.
    • Toetoes
      January 6, 2014 @ 09:01:13PM
    • I think that religious identity should still be included. When all is said and done it is a filter we use to be tolerant and to protect our families from cultures that are not in keeping with our character and principles. There are groups that are secretly poisoning our generations to convert to their religions or groups. Remember that.
    • mohamad nurajib
      January 6, 2014 @ 10:01:18AM
    • I agree with Mr. Ahok. Religion is not someone's identity. The birth data (city, date of birth) and mother's maiden name are primary identity info. Address is secondary.
    • MOHAMED AMIN OSMAN
      January 14, 2014 @ 11:01:01PM
    • You being a MUSLIM, having a stupid reason. We MUSLIMS should be proud of OUR TRUE RELIGION. How can you support others who are not in thisTRUE AND DIVINE LIGHT. The word ISLAM is a must in this world as well in THE HERAFTER.
    • Tst
      January 5, 2014 @ 07:01:13PM
    • It would be dangerous to take it out! What is so hard about including religion, it has been there for decades. Don't take out a good thing, Mr. Candra/Ahok.
    • miftahul
      January 5, 2014 @ 02:01:40AM
    • What is this? We, the Muslims of Indonesia, do not agree with the Jakarta Deputy Governor's idea.
    • Mohammad Sediono
      January 4, 2014 @ 08:01:13PM
    • Mr. Ahok, do not make things up. I have studied twice in the United States and also received a US ID card. Not only is religion stated, but it also states whether or not we are active followers. Therefore, data of those who practice Sharia devoutly is immediately known by the government (even though the US is more secular that the Republic of Indonesia). I would actually like to suggest that Indonesia also state the status of being active or not in practicing their religion. However, I still praise Mr. Ahok's actions. Non-Muslims who achieve a lot and are honest will definitely get the support of the community. Look at Mr. Ahok and other non-Muslim officials.
    • supriadi nahli
      January 2, 2014 @ 06:01:43PM
    • Religion in the ID card should always be written because from there we feel like upholding our respective teachings, so do not let a policy like this erase something that is already good and has already existed. You could change it but do not erase all of our religious identity.
    • edy mulyadi
      January 2, 2014 @ 10:01:04AM
    • Excluding the religion field on ID cards for is out of the question for Muslims because it is an identity of Aqidah.
    • sutopo
      January 2, 2014 @ 10:01:36AM
    • Religion is a person's identity in a country based on Pancasila, there is no need for debate, we should keep it on our ID cards. Even if it weren't visible, it would not affect religious tolerance, it all comes down to each and every person, their maturity, knowledge, and social experience.
    • sayed aznan
      January 2, 2014 @ 08:01:08AM
    • I think putting religion on identity cards is perfectly fine, for the ID card is a proof of citizenship and at the same time a method of identification. If Ahok says by stating the religion on identity cards it may lead to people being discriminated against, it is indirectly different because the religions in Indonesia are different from Islam. If this is what Ahok is stating, it shows him as one of the leaders who is unable to interpret religious tolerance. So my question now is: do non-Muslims in Indonesia feel disadvantaged by stating the name of the religion they have been practicing? If so, then you should have more faith in your religion. If I were to be confrontational I would dare say that Ahok is ashamed and afraid to acknowledge his religion, because we should take pride in our religion.
    • adie
      January 2, 2014 @ 12:01:18AM
    • Who do you think you are?
    • MINGO
      January 1, 2014 @ 11:01:40PM
    • You are only a Deputy Governor, not even the president, don't presume to deal with religion on ID cards. Don't create new problems.
    • alpianor
      January 1, 2014 @ 10:01:42PM
    • Because by including religion on our ID cards we can be more careful to be tolerant, and it also makes it easier to make friends.
    • syafrullah
      January 1, 2014 @ 09:01:12PM
    • This is called a change for the worse, we will be made vulnerable and easily exploited by hypocrites and scoundrels. Religion should still be included so that the person in question will have a responsibility to their religion to do good. He hasn't been deputy governor for that long and he's already stirring things up, taking away from the majority religion and robbing people of their principles with the presence of pigs, alcohol, other people's wives, fornication, all nice things, right? You can be the same as my neighbor's pet, creating fertile ground for communism, hurray! This is the way minorities take away the rights of the majority, history and culture, blustering away and slandering.
    • Tatang Komara
      January 1, 2014 @ 09:01:01PM
    • Ahok should not be so quick in prioritizing the religion status on ID cards but should instead focus on the prosperity of the people of the Jakarta Special Region.
    • soedomo pradono
      January 1, 2014 @ 08:01:26PM
    • I agree with erasing the religion field in our ID cards because it simplifies the information in a card that is relatively small and will enhance brotherhood among the faithful in Indonesia (besides, there are Muslims that are not true Muslims/syncretic). Religion is between people and God, it should not be made a prominent issue.
    • aceh
      December 31, 2013 @ 11:12:20PM
    • I do not like Ahok's policy. It is an insult to us Muslims because Islam is the most perfect religion in the world. In the eyes of Allah there are only two religions in the world, Islam for humans.

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